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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oi moderator how come im on as a newbie? whats that all about?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

maybe cos you've only posted twice before this  :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Dan,
I'm not sure whether it's the Brigade not knowing what to do when someone is enthusiastic, or whether they just want us to be foot soldiers who do as they're told when they're told without questioning the reasons, but it is strange how when you do get a team/crew or station that show some enthusiasm and actually want to be the 'best' how hard it actually is to get the backing required to achieve the goal!
I think we've all had the usual 'No' answer for many a drill/exercise or training request, you just have to ignore it and keep battling on. Do what you want and achieve your goals usually by excluding the Brigade.
Chin up boys and girls, do the stuff you want to be the best FFs you want to be!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What I have found sort of enforces Danny's thought, there is only so many times you can try before they knock the enthusiasm out of you.

I came to my current place of work with all the enthusiasm and good intentions to make it a better place and training environment. I know the senior officers like to say they want new and good ideas but its usually when it fits into their 'box', if it doesn't then its thrown out without any major thought.

It seams to be the people on the 'ground' aren't allowed to assess and maybe change practises that have been the 'norm' for so long but don't work any more.

The fact that we have to wait months and sometimes years to get op notes changed or even looked at because we aren't allowed to re-write them and have them assessed is just pathetic. I am still using notes and Op notes that were out of date when I did the FRU course.

How do we change this..................
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, it's a bit drastic, but how about a cull?
I saw a programme on TV the other night, this whole village got together to kill the nasty land owner, they all set up a gun to a door, all held the string to pull the trigger so that they couldn't all be charged with murder.
If we all get together I'm sure we could weedle out the 'numpties' and the ones that shouldn't be in the job let alone in charge. May take some time, but is it a plan or is it a plan?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That was me by the way (smudger), it didn't log me in so i'm down as guest (dam will I never be a tutor).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Great plan smudger, but you'll not have many left on shift  :shock:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dannyr wrote:
so many FRU's and the rumours of 6 more!  


If that's true, can we get the one that was stolen from Finchley back please?

We still have roads where traffic manages to do 40mph plus  :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've not heard anything about another six coming on the run, think dannyr may have meant the last six
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Cyclops246 wrote:
Hi Ian,

Happy New year mate.
T/FRU and H/FRU....I got this from a principle officer and from a senior officer involved in FRU policy.
The plan is that eleven FRU's, that is the 'original' ten plus Millwall, will be technical rescue FRU's (T/FRU), and concentrate on core rescue work and technical rescue (line, USAR, swift water and boat); while the other five (including Wimbledon) will do core rescue work and hazmat (Firefighter decon, DIM support etc.).

Sound good?? I doubt it.

Dave


At work last night this raised its ugly head and you are right Dave about Wimbledon becoming an H/FRU, what I do not understand is this.

As an example, Battersea would be USART, Line Rescue, Swift Water and Boat, whilst say as an example Wimbledon would become core rescue work and hazmat. How the hell are crews at Battersea going to keep up with all the technical training required to maintain all those technical skills?

If you have say USART and Line at Battersea and give Wimbledon Swift Water and Boat, that might divide up the training requirement a bit. There will also be problems with out duties, and FRU crews without the right skills to keep that specific capability on the run for that particular FRU when they go on an out duty.

Again I think it shows that those making the decisions do not listen to those who actually have to work it on the ground, but what do I know.



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