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Blaze Bear

Specialist rescue teams

Should we have these teams set up in the same way as USAR? maybe trainer responders as advisor's in line or water, can't be a bad thing
smudger22

FRUs

Once the 16 units are in place then that should be plenty. If we need more (i.e. 7/7) then the county brigades come in. You can always argue for more machines and more firefighters but we're not made of money so we won't get them.
Blaze Bear

I think using them smarter is my point, the amount of work and training these crews will be doing is going to increase. There is going to be a time they are going to take the FRU crews off fire engines and just specalise on the FRU.
Redbusrider

Rescue stations

Should we have rescue stations? Yes and let the FRU Crew managers hold a more fitting rank which reflects their skill level at the existing ten USAR FRU stations. Crew manager of a USAR FRU  or WMA on a control unit which holds the higher skills? mmmmm If the brigade had done there sums right, they should have doubled the FRUs at the 4 USAR station instead of letting them be the whipping guys for Rapid response team. Do we need more trainer responders especially from FRU training considering only one or two have actually ridden a unit ? No  Come on lets have a proper discussion on here!
Blaze Bear

Re: Rescue stations

Redbusrider wrote:
Do we need more trainer responders especially from FRU training considering only one or two have actually ridden a unit ? No  Come on lets have a proper discussion on here!


Oh dear !!!

Some of these non riders WM’s are higher qualified than the SM advisors that are sent out on line and water jobs. Also after 2 years on the team they are also more experienced that a lot of the FRU riders we have trained.
Redbusrider

Blaze ,more experienced in what ? training :D
Blaze Bear

Redbusrider wrote:
Blaze ,more experienced in what ? training :D


And how do you stay at the top of your game? drinking tea!!  :lol:
smudger22

Been away for a few days and look what happens, a real sink your teeth into debate!
I think both sides have a point, we do need a lot more training at station level for the 'new dimension' stuff, whether it's better equipment for FRUs or new machines as in USAR etc. having been ET then FRU for years I know the equipment we have now as opposed to 25 years ago is lights years apart, but to keep up the skills needed we do have to do more training at stations (and at special outside venues) to maintain a good level of competancy. I agree with redbusrider, the brigades command structure has always left a lot to be desired, rank to role didn't necessarlity help, but unfortunately when you have non operational personnel running a 'corporate' business instead of firefighters running a fire brigade that's what you get. Over time it may sort it's self out, but not in my lifetime.
I think the point is really that we work as a team, trainers do provide a lot of information regarding new procedures and new techniques, that with input from experienced riders does make a good effective unit, but we sometimes get a conflict of us and them. Can you tell I'm in a loved up moment?
Let's bond boys and girls (lol). hummmmmmmmmmm
Just chill bro's,
:D
Blaze Bear

Mr Smith sir! you are a ponce  :mrgreen:
smudger22

I'm not quiet sure which way to take that?
I've never known ponce to be used in a good way so I can only assume that it's being used as an insult.
Thanks Rob :(
Blaze Bear

Oh Mr Smudger, you know I love you really.

Not sure how or if the new rescue stations will ever happen let alone work. I do agree that we as the training team sometimes forget there is a lot of experience out in the stations. I believe we are however handicapped in what we are actually aloud to teach you peeps.

Hopefully there will be a lot more working together as we have now been given permission to come to stations and do more training, you just have to phone up and tell use where, when and what you want.

I'll be seeing you lot early September for winch training, as long as nothing changes
smudger22

That's better, we'll have none of that nasty talk here you know!
I'll make sure I'm there for September, wouldn't want to miss that  :wink:
BlazingPalace

its booked in for a service in september  :D  The true rescue machine ( PL ) will be there as always.
Redbusrider

Now gents here by lays another subject " The winch"!!!!!!!!!
Blaze Bear

Its alright Red we are gonna come see you to soon  :wink:
smudger22

There's no escaping......
Trainers!
Bless their little cotton socks,
:D
Redbusrider

I'm cutting the crusts off the salmon and cue sarnies already  :lol:

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