LFEPA meeting report future of training

Redbusrider · LFEPA meeting report future of training

Read section 27. The shift change seems to be a forgone conclusion!!!!!!!

http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/lfepa/reports/2008/FEP1226.pdf

BlazingPalace

Have just read the report, must remind myself to get a life!! There was some interesting points made about the current training site which I think we all knew, but hey lets get a group of consultants in to tell us and we can give them a big fat fee. The section which comments upon shift change shows what management thinks about its work force, and meaningful consultation.
I assume that if the operational staffs are going to have a shift change to allow us to work more productively (think that’s the term used in the report) then ALL other departments will also be required to work along the same hours as us?

Blaze Bear

Who cares as long as some of us are made to wear ties

BlazingPalace

Blaze Bear

Ties are only for the trainers at STC, everyone else can walk around wearing what they like but we have to wear them all the time in the hotest of weather.

This was the Training DAC who invented this idea, even though the personnel notes staes that there is a summer dress where ties aren't to be warn.

'I'm sure wearing a tie makes me a better trainer' 8)

BlazingPalace

If a note says you dont have to wear them during the summer then he can not make you wear them. What is he going to do? send you back to a station? would not be able to give you any form of warning as it would not stand up.
Of course there is also the "old" health and safety route about your personal well being during this warm weather, you might need to wear shorts!! if you have carried out your own risk assessment and you feel there is a chance you might suffer from heat exhaustion dont wear the tie simple as that and see what he does.

Blaze Bear

I'm causing enough trouble at the moment about sun glasses, I was also told today that if the students are hot and under direct sun light instead of letting us wear 'floppy hats' or giving us a gazebo they should put their fire coats and helmets on to protect them from the sun's rays.

I'm sure I'm missing something when the brigade doesn't see heat as a problem :roll:

BlazingPalace

Makes you wonder what these people are on? Madness real is and to think they have got to such a position within the authority.

Blaze Bear

What pisses me off about the whole thing is its only the trainers that have to wear them, so every swinging dick officer from Union street wanders round their offices and STC not having to have one.

There is in the note the DAC sent round a bit that said 'undress trousers/skirts are to be warn' I was gonna order a skirt and wear that round STC :lol: cos I think its sexist that only females can wear skirts :roll:

Redbusrider

Hey you better be wearing ties when you do the winch training. We don't want any second class training at stations! :lol:

Blaze Bear

Straight8

Since I have no life . . . . I read the minutes of these meetings on a regular basis.

There's been several controversial suggestions on the agenda over the years, however I still believe it's a long long way from being brought up in a meeting to being implemented.

This is now the 4th year they've been talking about it, I'm still waiting for their first move. :?