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Blaze Bear

Firemen 'cruised through city

A crew of flirty firefighters could be in hot water after apparently cruising through a busy city centre in a fire engine to impress women.

An investigation has been launched after an angry cabbie reported the behaviour to fire chiefs, after filming a leggy blonde climbing out of the tender on his mobile phone

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...tre-engine-trying-pick-women.html
Samm

Oooops!!! :o  :lol:
Dan C

Jealous that tthey were not in his car no doubt, bloody idiot what need is there for him to get involved?
Cyclops246

Time for me to cause problems on the forum again, I guess. Oh well, as Winnie Churchill said- 'You've got enemies? That's good- it means you stood up for something sometime in your life.'

We went on strike a few years back demanding a 39% pay rise because, so the slogan went 'Why? Because We're Worth It.' Back then we portrayed ourselves a professional outfit being paid amateur wages.

Now, regardless of the outcome of the strike and the fall-out from it, I'd say we are as professional now as we were then- if not more. Well, professionals don't drive round the city centre at night letting unknown, inebriated, semi-clad girls clamber on the appliances. The possible allegations that might come from that are too horrible to even contemplate. The bloke in question with the camera was probably right to complain. The crew, and the O-I-C in particular will get what they deserve.

The same goes for the occassional practice of firefighters learing out of appliance windows at women in the street as the vehicle travels down the road. Not on my f**king appliance.
Redbusrider

Cyclops could not agree more!
Blaze Bear

Got to agree, too many people in this job that take the piss and treat it as a bit of a joke.
BlazingPalace

Probably why I have been busted twice !!  :D
Straight8

Cyclops246 wrote:

Now, regardless of the outcome of the strike and the fall-out from it, I'd say we are as professional now as we were then- if not more. Well, professionals don't drive round the city centre at night letting unknown, inebriated, semi-clad girls clamber on the appliances. The possible allegations that might come from that are too horrible to even contemplate. The bloke in question with the camera was probably right to complain. The crew, and the O-I-C in particular will get what they deserve.



Quite.

Cyclops246 wrote:

If you missed the last event in Purley; if you missed page 3 girl Jackie Degg doing the round cards;


Indeed.  :?
Straight8

So on one hand the lads from Tyne and Wear are dreadful people for chatting to a group of girls, but 'I'm alright Jack' for looking at a virtually naked Page 3 girl at a boxing event where people are representing the London Fire Brigade?   :roll:

By co-incidence this article was discussed over on a taxi driver forum (exciting stuff) I read, and the local Newcastle drivers came to the same conclusion about the complainant that I did, mainly he was a crank.
Blaze Bear

GBC wrote:
So on one hand the lads from Tyne and Wear are dreadful people for chatting to a group of girls, but 'I'm alright Jack' for looking at a virtually naked Page 3 girl at a boxing event where people are representing the London Fire Brigade?   :roll:


I don't believe Cyclops or the others were on duty at the time or had the page three girl hanging out of an appliance in the ring, may be wrong though  :roll:
Wurkit

"So on one hand the lads from Tyne and Wear are dreadful people for chatting to a group of girls, but 'I'm alright Jack' for looking at a virtually naked Page 3 girl at a boxing event where people are representing the London Fire Brigade?"

A very poor comparison!
Straight8

Wurkit wrote:
"So on one hand the lads from Tyne and Wear are dreadful people for chatting to a group of girls, but 'I'm alright Jack' for looking at a virtually naked Page 3 girl at a boxing event where people are representing the London Fire Brigade?"

A very poor comparison!



Thanks Salacious, I knew you would'nt be too long in popping up.

The crux of the matter is about bringing the Brigade into dispute. Whether you're sat on an appliance or out with a group off firemen on a night out, in this case a Boxing match, you can't have double standards, your still a Fireman and you can't pick and choose where it's appropriate to bog or where it's not, but don't let that stand in the way of double standards.
BlazingPalace

Seconds away round 1
Redbusrider

I think we are missing the point. The Newcastle guys were on duty and as such are expected to set a certain level of behaviour. GBC the guys could have talked to the ladies without them being on the truck and as Cyclops has already stated they could have left themselves open to all sorts of aligations. The fact that it was recorded by a cabbie is irrevalent.

The guys watching boxing were not in uniform, off duty and in their own time.  Totally different
Straight8

Redbusrider wrote:
I think we are missing the point. The Newcastle guys were on duty and as such are expected to set a certain level of behaviour. GBC the guys could have talked to the ladies without them being on the truck and as Cyclops has already stated they could have left themselves open to all sorts of aligations. The fact that it was recorded by a cabbie is irrevalent.

The guys watching boxing were not in uniform, off duty and in their own time.  Totally different



You'll find discipline regulations apply whether you're in uniform crawling around a B.A chamber or whether you're down the pub with your mates. it's still about maintaining the reputation of the LFB.

Try driving you car with a skinfull of Martini's down your neck, then get stopped by the Police and go on a trip to court where you loose your license . . . and then try telling the brigade it's nothing to do with them as you were off duty and not in uniform in your own time.

The reply will be interesting to say the least.   :shock:

The bottom line is you can't condone lads chatting to / bogging at girls, regardless of their dress mode, and promote it in the next breath because it's an 'off duty' gathering of LFB personel.

Like a lot of Officers, many seem to have had their memory erased upon promotion and become born again Firemen.

Thou shalt not . . .


Redbusrider wrote:
the guys could have talked to the ladies without them being on the truck and as Cyclops has already stated they could have left themselves open to all sorts of aligations.



Well if you had a crew on the machine (which being an operational truck, I suspect there would be)  I think the chances of any allegations would be slim to say the least.

Certainly no more than when we're out fitting yet another smoke alarm with a crew on 2 on one of the specials.
Cyclops246

Wow!! GBC...are you for real or just a complete idiot?
The Tyne and Wear chaps were on duty, being paid by the tax payer (a dreary, oft stated comment I know, but true nonetheless but one which you have commented upon yourself in other posts) and using an appliance and their uniforms to attract half-cut women late at night.

In contrast Jakki Degg carried the ring cards at a boxing tournament that happened to include members of the LFB fighting bouts. I believe there may have been a number of firefighters present in the crowd, too, but as they were not on duty, wore no uniform and nowhere in the venue was there any fire brigade paraphanalia, who cares?

And where was this 'virtually naked Page 3 girl' you've mentioned? The photo's demonstrate that Jakki wore leather trousers, shoes and a top. Hardly virtually naked....unless that's what Mrs GBC wears in bed??
Straight8

Cyclops246 wrote:
Wow!! GBC...are you for real or just a complete idiot?


Alas no, I never went for promotion and the compulsive frontal labotomy that tends to go with it.

Wow.

Cyclops246 wrote:
The Tyne and Wear chaps were on duty, being paid by the tax payer (a dreary, oft stated comment I know, but true nonetheless but one which you have commented upon yourself in other posts) and using an appliance and their uniforms to attract half-cut women late at night.



Ah, now see your guessing that they were using the motor and uniforms to attract females.
How do you know they were'nt parked up doing hydrants or on an AFA call?
Having had the benefit of working from a city centre station for many years, you tend to find girls, drunk or otherwise appear next to the appliance and chat to you.
I'm still struggling to see the 'half cut and semi clothed girls' in the picture.

Perhaps Laura Ashley should be compulsary for any girl over 18 who wishes to go out for the night?  :lol:

Funnily enough last time I checked the new discipline regulations it's not an offence to interact with the public whether they be girls, men or little old ladies. It helps win them over so when we're all out the doors over your £800 protected pay, it'll be one or two less enemies we'll have to pacify.

Cyclops246 wrote:

In contrast Jakki Dreggs carried the ring cards at a boxing tournament that happened to include members of the LFB fighting bouts. I believe there may have been a number of firefighters present in the crowd, too, but as they were not on duty, wore no uniform and nowhere in the venue was there any fire brigade paraphanalia, who cares?


Oh well that's ok then is'nt it? As long as your oggling at girls at a boxing match, and not on an appliance, that'll be all right then. Perhaps you may wish to reconsider your usual hollier than thou approach to the reality that's called life?

And of course since you avoided the point, I take it you readily accept that discipline offences and standards of behaviour are to be observed whether you are on or off duty?

You must have been a right old hoot when you were a FM.  :lol:


Cyclops246 wrote:
that's what Mrs GBC wears in bed??



Why, do you miss that Mr Cyclops?

It's never too late bud.   :wink:
Cyclops246

I don't believe I avoided the point and I'm not really sure what discipline regulations you're suggesting were contravened at the boxing.

According to the cabbie that reported the matter of the firefighters out on the appliance, they were 'shouting and leering at women' before allowing one to climb into the rear crew cab (OK, some cabbies are known to be half-witted morons).

I agree that there was some shouting and leering as Jakki Degg paraded around the ring at the boxing, but she was there specifically for that purpose. It was a private event and she was dressed in a considerably less revealing outfit than the girl seen getting off the appliance. There was no mention or connection with the LFB. If you can't see the difference between the two events, you really are confused. :?

As for 'ogling girls' (that's the correct spelling of the word, GBC. Be careful if you think about promotion, with the frontal lobotomy that comes with it, your spelling will be so bad you'll no longer be able to interact on fora such as this or the cabbie's one you spend all your time on), if you think it's appropriate for grown men to throw themselves at the windows of the fire engine at the sight of a lone woman, or to stop and invite women into the crew cab, best you remain a firefighter.

I tell you what, why don't you put a transfer in for Battersea Blue Watch and you'll learn all about discipline. I might even find time when we're off duty to do a bit of sparring with you too. :twisted:

And lastly, do I miss what? Your missus getting into bed fully clothed? I've never had the pleasure but if you want an answer I'll come round while you're out in the cab and I'll let you know. Will I need to queue?:shock:
BlazingPalace

Cyclops246 wrote:
. Will I need to queue?:shock:

Have to say I like that bit made me smile  :D
Wurkit

Dave,
Don't rise to it, why should you have to explain yourself?
We all know what goes on and no amount of hypothesis can deceive anybody who has served at an operational fire station. The differences between the two situations are blatantly obvious.
GBC is just being his usual egotistical, antithetical and incongruous  self.
To paraphrase  one of his own, over used phrases, 'I'll bet he's hoot around the mess table'.
Straight8

Wurkit wrote:
Dave,
Don't rise to it, why should you have to explain yourself?
We all know what goes on and no amount of hypothesis can deceive anybody who has served at an operational fire station. The differences between the two situations are blatantly obvious.
GBC is just being his usual egotistical, antithetical and incongruous  self.
To paraphrase  one of his own, over used phrases, 'I'll bet he's hoot around the mess table'.



Hi Salacious, great post, if you follow Mr Cyclops around long enough he'll throw you a treat.

Can you let me into the secret of your debating (minus the mas) skills?  :lol:

PS, if I post 'bet your a hoot' once, it's hardly overused now is it?
Straight8

Cyclops246 wrote:
I don't believe I avoided the point and I'm not really sure what discipline regulations you're suggesting were contravened at the boxing.


I don't believe I did?

Cyclops246 wrote:
According to the cabbie that reported the matter of the firefighters out on the appliance, they were 'shouting and leering at women' before allowing one to climb into the rear crew cab (OK, some cabbies are known to be half-witted morons).


'According to', well that's it then, signed sealed and delivered.

I guess it depends on ones definition of leering, is it a physical act, or a mear state of mind at the time?

Cyclops246 wrote:
OK, some cabbies are known to be half-witted morons
 

This is true, but then so are some officers. I guess that's what makes the LFB a wonderful melting pot which reflects society in general.

Cyclops246 wrote:
I agree that there was some shouting and leering as Jakki Degg paraded around the ring at the boxing, but she was there specifically for that purpose. It was a private event and she was dressed in a considerably less revealing outfit than the girl seen getting off the appliance. There was no mention or connection with the LFB. If you can't see the difference between the two events, you really are confused. :?
 

Oh well, that's ok then. Perhaps it was your perception of Firemen that led you on your little rant.  :lol:

Cyclops246 wrote:


if you think it's appropriate for grown men to throw themselves at the windows of the fire engine at the sight of a lone woman, or to stop and invite women into the crew cab, best you remain a firefighter.

 

Throw themselves? Tell me something, do you tell yourself you're really 6'00 opposed to 5'04"?  :lol:

A lone woman?  :lol:

If you tell yourself often enough Mr Cyclops, I guess you and Salacious will believe it?

Cyclops246 wrote:
I tell you what, why don't you put a transfer in for Battersea Blue Watch and you'll learn all about discipline. I might even find time when we're off duty to do a bit of sparring with you too. :twisted:
 

I understand there's always vacancies there.

How come?

Cyclops246 wrote:

And lastly, do I miss what? Your missus getting into bed fully clothed? I've never had the pleasure but if you want an answer I'll come round while you're out in the cab and I'll let you know. Will I need to queue?:shock:
 

Nah, she only goes out with tall guys with plenty of money.

I was thinking more of your single life, try one of these online dating agencies, you're not much to look at but apparantly there's someone out there for everyone? Let us know how you get on.  :wink:

Can I have a PM course if I move?
Straight8

BlazingPalace wrote:
Cyclops246 wrote:
. Will I need to queue?:shock:

Have to say I like that bit made me smile  :D


Me too, was'nt it side splitting?
Straight8

Funnily enough, just a moment ago an advert appeared at the top of the site from one of these sponsered Google ad's.

Just for you Mr C, I saved the url in case it does'nt pop up when you're next logged on.

http://www.gaychubbydating.com/?a...p;s=free_db_search&aff_cp=IMG

Good luck.

:wink:
Blaze Bear

Well a good morning to both of you, maybe I should have calmed this down before i went to bed  :shock:

As the post has started to degenerate into name calling I think that maybe we should either get back on topic or I'll lock the post and send you kids into separate corners of the room (and not waiting  for the bell, to come out fighting :roll: )

Admin
Cyclops246

Wow!! Four posts in half an hour so early in the morning!!! GBC....were you at the back of the queue?? :P
Cyclops246

Just had a look at that dating website GBC recommended. I think the fella on the home page is on the Green Watch at Surbiton. :)
Straight8

Cyclops246 wrote:
Wow!! Four posts in half an hour so early in the morning!!! GBC....were you at the back of the queue?? :P


Aye, your Mum was busy again.  :wink:

I think you'll find most of my posts are early Mr C, that's the time I get in after making my £3.96 in the cab.

Want a lift?
Straight8

Blaze Bear wrote:
Well a good morning to both of you, maybe I should have calmed this down before i went to bed  :shock:

As the post has started to degenerate into name calling I think that maybe we should either get back on topic or I'll lock the post and send you kids into separate corners of the room (and not waiting  for the bell, to come out fighting :roll: )

Admin


I agree Mr Admin, and for my part I retract anything that could be classified as insulting. However like most forums out here in cyber world, I always take a small pinch of salt when reading some threads.

Some folks like to start a row, I'll refer you to the following quote:

Cyclops246 wrote:
Time for me to cause problems on the forum again, I guess.


Nuff said.  :wink:
Cyclops246

My mum? Oooh that's a little cutting as she died a few years ago, but if you think that's appropriate.
Blaze Bear

I'll direct you both here http://londonfire.myfreeforum.org/about11.html Rules and regs. Please read and follow.

I'll now lock this thread  

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