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Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:48 pm
Should we have these teams set up in the same way as USAR? maybe trainer responders as advisor's in line or water, can't be a bad thing
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Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:24 pm
Once the 16 units are in place then that should be plenty. If we need more (i.e. 7/7) then the county brigades come in. You can always argue for more machines and more firefighters but we're not made of money so we won't get them.
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Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:53 pm
I think using them smarter is my point, the amount of work and training these crews will be doing is going to increase. There is going to be a time they are going to take the FRU crews off fire engines and just specalise on the FRU.
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:14 pm
Should we have rescue stations? Yes and let the FRU Crew managers hold a more fitting rank which reflects their skill level at the existing ten USAR FRU stations. Crew manager of a USAR FRU or WMA on a control unit which holds the higher skills? mmmmm If the brigade had done there sums right, they should have doubled the FRUs at the 4 USAR station instead of letting them be the whipping guys for Rapid response team. Do we need more trainer responders especially from FRU training considering only one or two have actually ridden a unit ? No Come on lets have a proper discussion on here!
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:48 pm
Redbusrider wrote:
Do we need more trainer responders especially from FRU training considering only one or two have actually ridden a unit ? No Come on lets have a proper discussion on here!
Oh dear !!!
Some of these non riders WM’s are higher qualified than the SM advisors that are sent out on line and water jobs. Also after 2 years on the team they are also more experienced that a lot of the FRU riders we have trained.
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:39 pm
Blaze ,more experienced in what ? training :D
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:32 am
Redbusrider wrote:
Blaze ,more experienced in what ? training :D
And how do you stay at the top of your game? drinking tea!! :lol:
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:40 am
Been away for a few days and look what happens, a real sink your teeth into debate!
I think both sides have a point, we do need a lot more training at station level for the 'new dimension' stuff, whether it's better equipment for FRUs or new machines as in USAR etc. having been ET then FRU for years I know the equipment we have now as opposed to 25 years ago is lights years apart, but to keep up the skills needed we do have to do more training at stations (and at special outside venues) to maintain a good level of competancy. I agree with redbusrider, the brigades command structure has always left a lot to be desired, rank to role didn't necessarlity help, but unfortunately when you have non operational personnel running a 'corporate' business instead of firefighters running a fire brigade that's what you get. Over time it may sort it's self out, but not in my lifetime.
I think the point is really that we work as a team, trainers do provide a lot of information regarding new procedures and new techniques, that with input from experienced riders does make a good effective unit, but we sometimes get a conflict of us and them. Can you tell I'm in a loved up moment?
Let's bond boys and girls (lol). hummmmmmmmmmm
Just chill bro's,
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:30 pm
Mr Smith sir! you are a ponce :mrgreen:
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:17 pm
I'm not quiet sure which way to take that?
I've never known ponce to be used in a good way so I can only assume that it's being used as an insult.
Thanks Rob :(
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