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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

We are currently aware of 2x new ALPs and 2x new TLs, but any info on further aerials being introduced? I know they have an additional 2x TLs in the pipeline...?

ALPs: BV57DFC and BV57DFD
TLs: BX07FND and BX07GUE

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

As far as i have heard, there are going to be 4x new TLs and 9X new ALPs!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The other two TLs have arrived although I'm not aware of their registrations yet. There are a total of 9 ALPs coming (2 already here as mentioned), although they will be delivered more slowly, and the ninth wont be coming until Octoberish

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The third of the 4 new TLs is reg: BV57AUA.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You lot need to get out more  :lol: I don't even know the reg of the FRU i've been using for over a year  :shock:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi all,

Ive just found out that both Soho and
Paddington are due to go frontline with their new TLs on Sunday
evening around 1800 hours.

Jonathan :)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Are the new aerial appliances being introduced so unreliable that they need have the fleet as reserves? or are they there for the next change of policy just in case?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They have been having problems but mostly just teething troubles which are experienced with all new appliances, and I'm sure it will take a while for the crews to get used to the new high-tech ladders that replaced their 25 year old more simple ones. In total there will be four reserve ALPs (plus a fifth used for training but can be used as a reserve if needed). These will cover a total of eleven aerials in London, both the ALPs and TLs. The reserves are just kept to cover appliances being serviced and breakdowns just as there is a large fleet of reserve pumping appliances, not for any particular worries about reliability.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Grumpy Old Man wrote:
Are the new aerial appliances being introduced so unreliable that they need have the fleet as reserves? or are they there for the next change of policy just in case?


Would you rather not have reserves then?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Tyke wrote:
Grumpy Old Man wrote:
Are the new aerial appliances being introduced so unreliable that they need have the fleet as reserves? or are they there for the next change of policy just in case?


Would you rather not have reserves then?


No thats not the case at all. I understand why there are reserves and fully agree that there should be reserves. It's about the quantity of them asa percentage. If you look at other companies/organisations with specialist equipment they would not/could not accept the percentage of units in reserve/training.  Take some of these examples

1. Bus companies in London working to TFL contracts and achieving 98% reliability of service have a reserve/training fleet/allowance of between 8 and 12%

2. A specialist film unit/location company in west London expect and achive 90% fleet availability from their 7 Volvos aerial platforms. platforms. Each truck covers an average of 20000 miles a year and the platforms operate for an average on site of 23 hours a week. If there is a vehicle/platofrm failure they have a contract in place that stipulates an engineer on site within 3 hours and a first time fix rate of 75% and for all failures to be fixed within 48 hours.

Now with the above in mind either asset co or LFB fleet managers are poor at fleet management/contract specification/procurment or the product is not fit for purpose.

Most companies now want to "sweat their assets" not have half the fleet laid up at anyone time either spare or out of service.

It's only my opinion, you tell me you guys operate the kit I am more than happy to accept your expert views as first hand users.



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