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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

London Station personnel are having to now complete either the London management short version with reduction to 8 days sick or the national CPD form. Its all a farce but who's fault was it in the first place? Union or Management

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

CPD
In 2007, the FBU agreed locally the concept of a CPD interim process. Where
they had accrued fewer than nine days’ non-due-to-service sickness in the
previous year, London members were able to access payment via the streamlined
local interim process, rather than be required to enter the more complex national
process. Now, though, and completely unnecessarily, senior managers have
demanded a reduction in the number of sick days to eight, arguing that the
welcomed reduction in sickness levels throughout the brigade provides scope for
this. The FBU argued that members were therefore effectively being punished for
improving sickness levels generally. Perversely, the brigade responded by offering
a ‘compromise’ which would alter the number of days from eight in a year to 21
days in three years, which any keen observer would quickly discover is, pro-rata,
an even more inferior proposal. It would also fall foul of the national CPD
agreement, which provides for annual, and not triennial, assessments.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

John don't get me wrong, we all know what the management are up to .  

CPD was to replace long service increments as this was deemed to be "unfair" as you had to have over 5 years in the job, yet you are not eligible for CPD unless you have completed 8 years service???.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

 CPD was to replace long service increments as this was deemed to be "unfair" as you had to have over 5 years in the job, yet you are not eligible for CPD unless you have completed 8 years service???.[/quote]

......the LSI was to be left in it's present form and was considered as safe as it was not being sought after by management but was 'offered' by the union as part of the modernisation package in a cunning and masterful piece of negotiation; management must have sat there speachless when they came to the table with that one!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I await the bullets, but did we not agree to this as part of the deal to end our pay dispute ??

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wurkit wrote:
 CPD was to replace long service increments as this was deemed to be "unfair" as you had to have over 5 years in the job, yet you are not eligible for CPD unless you have completed 8 years service???.


CPD replaced long service pay which was awarded after 15 years service not 5, thats LSL

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BlazingPalace wrote:
I await the bullets, but did we not agree to this as part of the deal to end our pay dispute ??


Yep... and the Union sold it to us as "the best deal we were gonna get"!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

BlazingPalace wrote:
Wurkit wrote:
 CPD was to replace long service increments as this was deemed to be "unfair" as you had to have over 5 years in the job, yet you are not eligible for CPD unless you have completed 8 years service???.


CPD replaced long service pay which was awarded after 15 years service not 5, thats LSL


I took the quote from redbusrider and assumed that he meant 15yrs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ooops thanks for the correction Blaze. missed of the 1

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

'The Union' ?

We are all 'The Union'.


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